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Arduino Pro Mini commonly comes in two packages, 5V 16MHz and 3.3V 8MHz.

  1. The only difference between those two boards are regulator and clock crystal, right?
  2. What happens if I supply 2V to VCC pin of 5V 16MHz board?
  3. What happens if I supply 2V to RAW pin of 5V 16MHz board?
  4. What happens if I supply 5V to VCC pin of 3.3V 8MHz board?
  5. What happens if I supply 5V to RAW pin of 3.3V 8MHz board?

I read from some websites stating that Arduino Pro Mini power consumption can be reduced by removing regulator.

  1. Does removing regulator cause VCC pin = RAW pin?

Jean created a custom board for Arduino Pro Mini rated at 1MHz 1.8V.

  1. Which pin should I supply voltage after changing fuse setting? (Jean changed the fuse setting but I am not sure where to connect the supply voltage of 1.8V)
  2. Related to question 7, is there a need to remove regulator to supply 1.8V?
  3. Can I supply higher voltage (3V) on board with 1.8V fuse setting?

Reason for question/ Confusion

I want to power Arduino Pro Mini using 3V coin cell. Battery voltage decreases after usage to around 2V. I am thinking of simply inserting 3V coin cell to Arduino with 1.8V setting. But regulator may hinder the operation. That is why I am confused. Sites I visited states the possibility of using lower voltage after changing fuse setting but did not mention where to connect and whether regulator need to be removed.

Furthermore, ATmega328p datasheet states the VCC range is 1.8V to 5.5V. If that is so, why not just plug those voltage to VCC pin of Arduino Pro Mini instead of specifically 5V or 3.3V. Question 1-5 should clear my confusion on this.

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Read the datasheet once more. A certain voltage is needed for a certain clock frequency. There is a graph somewhere.

Since the Atmega328p is able to run up to 5.5V for VCC, that 5.5V is for every clock frequency.

Using 2V for VCC is not enough to run it at 16MHz. According to the datasheet even 3.3V is not enough. But 3.3V and 16MHz will work (it is outside the specifications though).

The RAW pin is the voltage before the voltage regulator, right ? Depending on the voltage regulator you can apply a large range of voltage. See the pinout.

When you remove the voltage regulator, the RAW pin is open. Sometimes I remove the voltage regulator and use 3 AA batteries and feed the 4.5V into the VCC (or 5V pin) of a 8MHz ATmega328p board.

  1. Yes. The bootloader and sketch have to know the clock frequency. A sketch compiled for 8MHz is for a 8MHz Arduino board and a sketch compiled for 16MHz is for a 16MHz Arduino board.
  2. 2V is too low. 3.3V should work.
  3. 2V is too low. 3.3V depends on the voltage regulator.
  4. No problem. The voltage regulator gets a reverse voltage.
  5. No problem.
  6. No. See the schematic.
  7. To VCC.
  8. Not a "must", but it is highly preferred to remove the voltage regulator, so no current is leaking towards the voltage regulator which gets a reverse voltage.
  9. Yes. The fuses are to lower/disable the BOD, so a higher voltage is no problem.

This is the best tutorial about the power of the Atmega328p : Nick Gammon about Power

ADDED

I forgot to mention to remove the led as well.
This is a Pro Mini with a coin cell.

Lowering the clock speed will make it run at lower voltages, but that will not always reduce the used energy. Doing a calculation at a slow speed takes more time than the same calculation at high speed (and going into sleep mode after that).

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When a low voltage is supplied (for example 2V to a 5V 16MHz Arduino board), the voltage regulator will not work. How much current/voltage is still passed on depends on the voltage regulator. With the BOD disabled, and the microcontroller runs below its required voltage, anything weird can happen. Parts of the chip will work and parts will not. That is why the BOD was invented in the first place (to reset the chip and avoid weird things to happen). I think it is very unlikely that the microcontroller will get damaged with a (too) low voltage.

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  • so if i want to supply 2.5~3V to Arduino Pro Mini, I'll have to reduce the clock frequency and remove the regulator, correct?
    – iHateUni
    Commented Oct 25, 2017 at 20:28
  • Yes, that is correct. For testing your sketch, you don't have to desolder the voltage regulator right now. Just use VCC and ignore the leakage current to the voltage regulator.
    – Jot
    Commented Oct 25, 2017 at 20:32
  • Thank you for the clarification. One last question. What happens if i feed a lower voltage on a regulated Arduino? i.e feeding 2v on 5V regulator (assuming clock frequency is ok). will it stress the battery or voltage regulator or arduino? Edit - okay. that answered my last question. thanks
    – iHateUni
    Commented Oct 25, 2017 at 20:41
  • I have added a ADDED section. Someone uses a coin cell. I prefer three AA batteries. No stress with a lower voltage to the regulator. I will not work, that's all.
    – Jot
    Commented Oct 25, 2017 at 20:42
  • ADDED 2 section added.
    – Jot
    Commented Oct 25, 2017 at 20:53

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