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I'd like to use an ATMega328P for my project, I hope to do it without the arduino board. I know with the Arduino IDE and an Arduino board I can program the microcontroller. However, would it be possible once I've programmed and debuged the program with arduino IDE + arduino board, to take away the microcontroller from the Arduino board and to use the ATMega328P separetly, without the board? If yes, what additional configurations I should do the ATMega328P to work correctly on the breadboard?

Thank you, George

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Yes you can use ATMega328P without arduino board. I always use the IC without arduino. There are two ways of doing it.

  1. You can use arduino board with the IC. Program the IC and then take it out and use it in your circuit. You will have to use 16MHZ Oscillator with capacitors.
  2. If you don't have arduino board, you can use other programmers like USBasp to program your Atmega328p. In this case, do not use the direct upload button instead use the upload using programmer options from file menu. Do not forget to select board as Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (5v, 16mhz) With ATmega328 and programmer as USBasp.

NOTE: Refer to Atmega328p Pin Mapping and program your device accordingly. Enjoy!

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You can remove an ATMEGA from an Arduino and use it in your own board, however when used on a typical Arduino board the chip will be fused for an external crystal as a clock source, rather than the (simpler but less accurate) internal clock.

You cannot change the clock source over ISP unless the clock source the chip is currently expecting is operational, so if you want to change the clock selection you will want to do that before removing the chip from the Arduino.

However, you can also provide a clock crystal and its two capacitors (or a substitute resonator which often has this built in) on your external board.

Typically chips (even those pre-flashed with a bootloader as a convenience) are cheaper than boards, so it's unclear why you would want to move the same chip off the Arduino as opposed to using another. You will want a USB-logical level serial adapter anyway, and once you have that you can do development on the bare chip on your board, even if you do initial testing on the Arduino. In a pinch if you don't have the USB converter you can either pull the chip out of an Arduino board and run wires from its D1 and D0, or hold the on-board chip in reset to allow you to borrow those serial lines without interference.

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    My idea is to use only a microcontroller without a board. As it is easy to program an Arduino, I thought I may chose an ATMega. So, I have an Arduino uno, my idea is to buy only one ATMega and to program it and debug it using the uno board. However, I've just reaslised that if I separate the ATMega from the Arduino, I would need to add components(crystal, pull up resitances..). Can you please explain what you mean in the last paragraph of your post? Is there a simple way to program directly an ATMega(or any other microcontroller) without using the arduino IDE? Thanks. – George Oct 11 '15 at 18:09
  • While you can skip the IDE, using it or not is essentially irrelevant to the complexity of your circuit, as you can either use the IDE or not with a circuit that either has or doesn't have an external clock and either using a USB-serial on your target board, on a cable, or by programming your sketch with an ISP programmer. Yanking a chip off a board gets you nothing compared to just buying a chip either with a bootloader or without and loading one yourself, potentially using your intact Arduino as an ISP programmer, or using ISP to directly load your sketch without a bootloader. – Chris Stratton Oct 11 '15 at 18:54
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Search for "Build an Arduino" - you'll find tons of how-to articles about doing just that. You'd need to be able to solder connections on a printed-circuit board (and not even that if you wanted to use a solderless breadboard), but it's really straightforward. You can even build it first and program the MCU on the PCB using an FTDI cable. I use an Arduino board and a solderless breadboard to experiment with unfamiliar parts, but I usually go immediately to a hand-built board once I'm familiar with all of the components I'll be using.

Prototyping with the Arduino board lets you throw together a bunch of parts and get something working quickly, and if the Arduino is more capable than your final target - f/ex, a Mega 2650 - you can temporarily ignore the memory and I/O constraints of the smaller device.

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Use ATMEGA328 P-PU with Arduino UNO bootloader....you can find it in hobby stores and online and stuff ☺

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    Arthur, sorry but this isn't a great answer (its not the worst though). You are answering the first part of the question 'is it possible' but you don't address the second part of the question 'how'. Can you edit you answer to explain what the minimal configuration required to run an Atmega328-P-PU outside of an Uno board? – Code Gorilla Aug 3 '17 at 12:27
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    Welcome to Arduino Stack Exchange. Please take the tour at arduino.stackexchange.com/Tour to get the most out of this site. We all realize that new users cannot post comments so you had no choice but to put this into an answer, but in the future you will find the concepts useful. Answers need more detail, for one. You are free to go back and edit this one to explain why this is a good idea. – SDsolar Aug 3 '17 at 17:31
  • I'm speechless... Honestly,im new to all these arduino stuff i need guidance .making a homemade uno here is about KES 900 ≤$9 buying one is kes1000 ≤$10 .Can anyone guide me or something 😕 – Arthur Aug 4 '17 at 19:01
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Using the bare chip is absolutely feasible and no problem whatsoever.

  • You don't say how ... – user31481 Aug 3 '17 at 11:11
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    Using a bare chip will not work, you need other components. – Code Gorilla Aug 3 '17 at 12:23

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