Timeline for Smaller and cheaper alternative to Arduino Uno for permanent projects
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| Nov 17, 2018 at 4:52 | comment | added | Rudy | @SnakeDoc A problem for you. I hope you can help. arduino.stackexchange.com/questions/57938/… | |
| Nov 15, 2018 at 3:11 | comment | added | Rudy | @SnakeDoc I thought you might be interested in this. esp8266.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17514 | |
| Nov 15, 2018 at 2:58 | comment | added | Rudy | @SnakeDoc Your summary you attribute to me is pure fiction. I think you need to read the Code of Conduct because you are not acting the way expected on this site. - As I have already explained, the answer I provided was based on the original question asked and the requirements expressed. And if the person considers a new criteria then that is his prerogative. My reason for using stable modules is most newbies do not have the equipment required to troubleshoot the issues that often will come up due to a lack of understanding about stable design. They have more than enough to deal with. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 8:03 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | Unless you happen to be making and selling Arduino Pro Mini's for a living.... hmm.... | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 8:02 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @Rudy To summarize everything you've said - You use premade boards because you're too tired after work to make one yourself, and you've already learned all there is about uC's so everyone else should just skip learning and use premade uC boards cuz reasons and cheap Chinese clones are definitely more reliable than a home-made uC board cuz more reasons. Sorry, but you sound pretty salty right now. OP accepted his answer. OP clearly is interested in assembling their own ATMega328p custom implementation, and will still use the Arduino tooling. It's wonderful, and no skin off your back. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 3:19 | comment | added | Rudy | @SnakeDoc As I have said above. I design electronics for a living. I can't put out a marginal design. Something that is going to only work most of the time. Industrial controls not consumer items. I think it is great that someone wants to learn. But the question asked was for a smaller cheaper unit that was easy to use. And I believe my answer fits that. The breadboard example in the picked answer shows the lack of knowledge of the constructor. And it disappoints me when I see someone learning from someone who is not ready to be teaching. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 2:36 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @Rudy it's pretty darn easy if you keep using the Arduino environment. It's exactly why at least two of us here have made that recommendation, including the accepted answer! The Arduino toolchain is very mature - and as the OP advances, they can branch out into more flexible solutions such as PlatformIO etc, all while still using the Arduino libraries! Pretty neat. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 0:21 | comment | added | Rudy | @immibis Tried what? I have been designing commercial electronic products for almost 35 years. I'm a hardware designer. I have recently started using the Arduino platform because I wanted to do my own projects at home and the Arduino IDE and all the libraries was the easiest to start with. At work I design the electronics and then pass it on to the firmware, then software, programmers. I have designed with many different chips. I have even made a product (my code) with a PIC part with 512 bytes of code space. Efficient. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 0:14 | comment | added | Criticizing Israel not allowed | @Rudy Have you tried it? (I haven't tried with this chip, but I've tried with different similar DIP uCs) | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 0:13 | comment | added | Rudy | "I would prefer a smaller and cheaper unit than the Arduino Uno but that is almost as easy to use as the Arduino Uno, and very similar to use." A dip CPU is NOT as easy to use as the Arduino Uno. You are putting your values into your answer and not listening to the person who posted the question. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 0:12 | comment | added | Criticizing Israel not allowed | @frarugi87 Makes sense for the RS232 version, for sure, but now they have a custom-programmed USB interface on-board! | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 0:10 | comment | added | Criticizing Israel not allowed | @SnakeDoc The compiler could easily add that code for you, like it already adds code for you. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 23:59 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @Rudy If you want to do your own thing, make your own packaging, or layout, save power (prolong battery life) or just make it look more professional, using the raw chips is certainly a great way to go. Plus you'll learn a lot more in the process, which makes the end result even more of a benefit. You can also help ensure people don't mess with it by plugging into the USB port, or do your own voltage regulation stuff, such as a buck-boost or whatever. Don't dismiss using the raw chips just because you can buy a Pro Mini... | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 23:47 | comment | added | Rudy | There isn't a good reason to use the dip parts. The Pro Mini doesn't take up any more space and it is a lot less hassle. Maybe ten years ago it made sense to use a dip part when there wasn't cheap alternatives. But now with the inexpensive (dirt cheap) modules available it just doesn't make sense. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 17:37 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @frarugi87 that's probably true, but for real beginners, plugging in a USB cable and using the Arduino IDE to upload "sketches" is about as easy as it can be. I think they made the right move to make it super accessible, especially for those who have zero microcontroller experience. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 16:46 | comment | added | frarugi87 | @immibis I think it is much easier to have a serial port interface rather than a programmer interface from the PC. Moreover, especially at the beginning, I think (personal opinion) that they wanted a complete system on a board, and integrating a programmer on the PCB was much harder than writing a serial bootloader. Consider that the first arduino boards had a serial port (Arduino RS232), so only one programmer was needed to program a lot of them (they were used at school) | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 7:43 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @immibis not sure what you mean exactly, but the arduino bootloaders do a lot of things that make working with the arduino's (and Atmel chips) a lot easier, including resetting of pins, switching to external clock, handing-off to your code, etc. Without it, you'd essentially need to write your own... which would be a waste of time since for majority of cases, the stock Arduino bootloader does everything you want anyway. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 1:57 | comment | added | Criticizing Israel not allowed | I always found it odd that Arduino uses a special bootloader for programming instead of using the built-in programming interface. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 0:10 | comment | added | VE7JRO | If you order your ATMEGA328P-PU with the boot loader already installed: ebay.ca/itm/…, then a PL2303HX USB to UART adaptor ($0.70CDN) will work to upload "code": aliexpress.com/item/… | |
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